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It was really strange.

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There was a person staring at me.

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I felt like someone was there.

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There was definitely the spirit of a little boy in our house.

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I still didn't know how he died.

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Children don't just die.

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I felt my whole body was in the air.

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I felt my whole body was in the air.

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I felt my whole body was in the air.

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I felt my whole body moved.

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I wanted it to leave my children alone.

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I needed to know more because somebody had a way with murder.

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My fiance, Kyle, and I were moving in for the first time with each other.

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The very day that we moved into our home was really exciting for us.

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We loved the home. It was cozy.

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And for being 135 years old, it was very exciting for us.

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We loved the home.

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We loved the home.

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We loved the home.

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Being 135 years old, it was very nice.

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We both are looking forward to getting married.

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She's a little bit older than I am.

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She already had kids.

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So it was a big step in our relationship to get married, you know, and to be together.

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Mikaela, Noah, Josh, Pete's is here.

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Hey guys, you all agree?

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As the older son, I was very excited to see Kyle come into the picture.

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Did you wash your hands?

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I liked him from the start. He was a cool guy.

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Yeah.

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Mikaela, Pete's is here.

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Coming.

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It was beautiful being able to be in a house and not have to worry about neighbors being a wall away.

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It was a new life, pretty much, for me.

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You teach your understand if you don't get all your friends out of here.

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Get the new house.

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I'm trying to make memories.

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All the children were very excited about moving in and getting out of our small apartment.

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I have a good feeling about this place.

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A toast.

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To a new family and a new house.

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Happy days.

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Happy days.

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After a couple of hours of unpacking, I decided to go have a cigarette.

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I heard a noise.

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I heard another noise, which was much louder.

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I was positive. I heard it come from the basement door.

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I was positive.

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There was nobody there.

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Kyle was upstairs.

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I knew nobody was down in the basement because we were just down there prior.

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I felt a strange feeling.

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I could feel somebody behind me.

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Kyle!

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I could feel, you know, breathing coming down on me.

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Kyle!

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What's wrong?

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I don't know.

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We didn't know what it was, but it just sounded like something fell and made a crash noise.

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Okay, stay here.

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There's nothing moving around down there.

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No animals, no demis, no nothing.

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There's nothing down there.

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He didn't believe anything.

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He didn't believe anything.

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He didn't believe anything.

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He didn't believe anything.

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He didn't believe anything was there, and he didn't believe me.

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There's nothing going on.

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You sure?

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Yeah.

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I knew that somebody was standing real close behind me, looking over, breathing on me.

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The next day, at 6.30 in the morning, I went into the kitchen.

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Our loaf of bread was sitting on the middle of the kitchen floor.

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It was something strange, it was a little bit of a mess.

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I was sitting on the floor, and I was like,

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I'm going to get out of here.

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I was like, I'm going to get out of here.

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I was like, I'm going to get out of here.

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It was just sitting on the kitchen floor.

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It was something strange about where it was placed.

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I knew it didn't just fall off of the counter.

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Why is the loaf of bread on the floor again?

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Kyle?

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Did you do this?

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That originally mean to me at least.

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It wasn't a big deal.

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Over $14 million to fight heart disease.

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I was really starting to wonder what was going on.

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There was no explanation for it to be on the floor.

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I knew something wasn't right.

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I was like, what the hell is going on?

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That afternoon, it was me alone in the house.

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I decided I was going to take a shower.

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I was like, what the hell is going on?

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It sounded like a little boy crying.

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It sounded more or less like a four or five year old.

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I expected to see somebody in that hallway.

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I've seen nobody out there.

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I was, you know, what's going on here?

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I was like, what the hell is going on here?

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Is anybody there?

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No, no, no, no.

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I called out.

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Noah?

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Mom?

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I got a phone call from my son, Josh, and he asked me.

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Is Noah home?

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No, he's at his dad's.

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You sure?

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Yes, I'm sure. Why?

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I was in the shower, and I heard a child.

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I said, there's nobody there. It's just you.

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And he said, no, mom.

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I heard a child on the steps.

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You OK?

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Yeah, I think I'm going to be all right.

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Bye.

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I'm going to be all right.

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I'm going to be all right.

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I'm going to be all right.

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I'm going to be all right.

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Yeah, I think I'm going to be all right. Bye.

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I am positive it wasn't my imagination.

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OK. Bye.

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It was very distinctive.

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I mean, that's how I could tell.

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It seemed like a very young child.

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This was the first time somebody else in the house

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had told me about something strange happening.

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I wasn't the only one experiencing something.

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It seemed like a very young child.

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My parents kind of just told us what rooms everyone

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was going to have, which I was fine,

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because the room that I had was the one that I wanted.

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I was quiet.

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And I was home alone.

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And...

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Hello?

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I heard a knock on my door.

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It was very soft-sounding.

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...

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And... there's nothing.

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...

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I wasn't very scared to open the door.

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...

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...

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Hello?

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I was positive that someone was at my door.

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There was no doubt about it.

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Hello?

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...

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I just looked up the window.

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It was very clear.

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Very small.

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Handprint.

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What's wrong?

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When we came home, she was very upset about something.

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We took my little brother Noah upstairs with us to test it on, see if it was him.

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Come here, buddy.

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She puts your hand up in the window for me, okay?

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His handprint was way too big to be the one that was on the window.

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I don't understand where this handprint came from.

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I knew there was something going on.

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One afternoon, I noticed that there was a vehicle parked across the street from our house.

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The person was staring at me.

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I was starting to feel very worried for my kids.

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...

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I was the only one home.

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I decided to lay on the couch just to close my eyes and have a peaceful moment.

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...

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I felt fingertips touching me.

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Noah?

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I could hear walking around.

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Why was this little boy in our house?

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This must have been the little boy that had put the handprint in the window.

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Hello?

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I was so worried.

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Right then, I knew our house was haunted.

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I knew for sure.

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It happened again.

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This red truck was parked across the street from our house.

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I was very worried.

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Josh?

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Josh?

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Is that car again?

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It was very strange because we live in a residential neighborhood.

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People just do not sit out in their vehicle.

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I'm going out there.

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Be careful.

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I knew something was up. I wasn't sure why.

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I was wondering what they were there for.

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So I started to approach the truck.

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I was wondering what they were doing.

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I knocked on the window.

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I went to go see what was going on.

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There's a woman in there all on her own.

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My name's Carrie.

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I lived in your house when I was a little girl.

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She was crying, trying to tell me her story about her living in my house.

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Would it be possible for me to come inside?

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I couldn't believe this woman was showing up.

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But there was a reason she was there.

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Yeah, of course.

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And I wanted to find out why.

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Everything was exactly the way I remembered it.

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And, you know, my heart just kind of sunk.

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It's okay. Come on through.

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Don't be scared. This is your home now.

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You know, you're...

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You're living in a house where my brother died 45 years ago.

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I was shocked. My heart dropped.

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His name was Chris.

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He was a beautiful boy with gorgeous blonde hair.

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I still didn't know how he died.

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I was just begging for an answer.

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I just had to know.

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And I thought maybe if I came out here, something would happen.

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Something would come to me, you know, some memory.

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Carrie was searching for answers.

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I did not know how to go and tell her in a respectful way

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that I had been seeing her little brother in my house.

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Back in 1967, my parents were having a hard time with their relationship

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and raising five kids, so...

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We were placed in foster homes

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at their request.

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My older sister and brother, they went into one foster home

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and me and Chris went into a different one.

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Chris, it's okay. Everything's going to be fine.

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I was really close to Chris while I was living here because...

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me and him were the only thing we knew.

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My brother and I, we slept in the same bed.

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And we were really close to each other.

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I remember one day, Chris wasn't with me.

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I went to look for him.

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Can I look at the hallway?

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Yeah, of course.

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As I walked through the house,

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I saw the spot...

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Chris?

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...where I found Chris on the floor.

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His eyes were open and he wasn't moving.

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I was saying,

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I was going to look for him.

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I was saying, come on, Chris.

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Wake up. Let's go play.

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I didn't know what happened to him.

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I looked at him,

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and I didn't know...

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I was like,

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I'm sorry.

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They told me it was all my fault.

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It was just so sad.

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She thought she was responsible for her brother's death.

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I'm sorry.

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There you go. Thank you.

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I wanted to tell Carrie what I was experiencing.

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She said...

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You would not believe some of the things...

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That have happened in this house.

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I've seen a little boy running through the hallway.

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Oh, my God.

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My son...

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...heard a child upstairs.

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And she said...

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I think I may have seen your little brother.

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Are you serious?

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I was trying to look at her to see if she told me the truth.

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I know.

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I saw a little blonde boy in the hallway.

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I couldn't believe it.

272
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And you think it's him?

273
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My mind was just blown away at the things that she was telling me.

274
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It was just so bizarre how our stories were just so inclined, you know.

275
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Without even knowing each other.

276
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Why would it be here?

277
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I couldn't put it together in my mind.

278
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It was hard saying goodbye to Carrie.

279
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Seeing her leave so emotional.

280
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It was really nice meeting you.

281
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You too.

282
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I wanted to know how he died and why he died...

283
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...because children don't just die.

284
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After being in the foster home when I was 16...

285
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...and I had gotten into an argument with my mom...

286
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,000
...in the heat of the moment, she said...

287
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...you killed your brother.

288
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Just like that.

289
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And that was the end of the conversation.

290
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And I was devastated wondering if I was the cause of it.

291
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I thought maybe I had something to do with it.

292
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It said in the article that...

293
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...that he died from strenuous child's play.

294
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And that just freaked me out because I thought...

295
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...oh my god, maybe I heard him somehow on accident.

296
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I started to think about it.

297
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I thought, oh my god, maybe I was the cause of his death.

298
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I started looking at the autopsy reports...

299
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...and police reports to try to piece it together.

300
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:10,000
And there were a lot of things that didn't connect.

301
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The foster father told the police and the doctors...

302
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...that he found Chris upstairs in the bedrooms with us...

303
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...and he wasn't breathing.

304
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And I knew that was a lie because I remember where I found him.

305
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I was on my own.

306
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I was grabbed by tea before I went upstairs.

307
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,000
I was on my own.

308
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,000
I was grabbed by tea before I went upstairs.

309
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,000
I was grabbed by tea before I went upstairs.

310
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I stopped out of my tracks.

311
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There was a man, a tall, slender old man.

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He was gone.

313
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I stopped out of my tracks.

314
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,000
I stopped out of my tracks.

315
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He was gone.

316
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,000
I was scared.

317
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,000
I was petrified.

318
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I had came home with Kyle.

319
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Is that Josh? Is he doing all that?

320
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I don't know.

321
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,000
Josh was very upset and shook up.

322
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,000
Josh, what happened? What's going on?

323
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Somebody in the house.

324
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,000
He told me that there was a man. He said he just disappeared.

325
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,000
What do you mean?

326
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,000
Well, do you stay here?

327
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,000
It's all clear.

328
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,000
There's nobody there.

329
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:57,000
This is the spirit of a man trying to touch my children.

330
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,000
It's not the little boy.

331
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,000
It's terrifying when you're not alone,

332
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,000
that you can feel that somebody is there with you.

333
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,000
I was totally coming to my wit's end.

334
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,000
I knew something had to be done.

335
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:25,000
So I had talked to Kyle about having a paranormal team come in.

336
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,000
When the team came to take a walk through the house,

337
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,000
we were around 9 o'clock at night.

338
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,000
He heard it from upstairs or he was upstairs when he heard it?

339
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:38,000
He was upstairs.

340
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,000
We showed him all the hotspots.

341
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Okay.

342
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,000
He had been standing right here and then I followed him into here.

343
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,000
And they set up all their equipment.

344
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,000
First of all, I was in the house.

345
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:51,000
Jenny had explained to us that, you know,

346
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,000
the basement basically terrified her.

347
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:06,000
To that room, it was a different atmosphere.

348
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:10,000
It felt very heavy. It felt dark.

349
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,000
I didn't want the paranormal team to come,

350
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,000
because I didn't believe in it.

351
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,000
So what do we do now?

352
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,000
Now we wait.

353
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,000
I heard footsteps.

354
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,000
It was like a boot.

355
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,000
They were very loud.

356
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,000
What we saw locked out that camera.

357
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,000
The shape of a man.

358
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:16,000
Fuck.

359
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,000
I saw this black mask run out of the basement.

360
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,000
Playback to tape.

361
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,000
It's just there. There's no visual.

362
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,000
I just saw it.

363
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:53,000
I was convinced that I had seen the silhouette of a man.

364
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,000
I was shocked when it didn't record it.

365
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,000
It was gone.

366
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,000
I have audio. Look this speaker on.

367
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,000
Playback.

368
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,000
Play it half speed.

369
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,000
Can you hear something?

370
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,000
Play it slower one more time.

371
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,000
I heard murder.

372
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,000
Murder was pretty clear to me.

373
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,000
The voice sounded like a man whispering.

374
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,000
I had to have him.

375
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,000
I had to have him replay it over and over,

376
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,000
because I could not believe what I was hearing.

377
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,000
That really freaked me out.

378
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,000
Was there a murder in this basement?

379
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,000
What may have happened to this little boy?

380
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,000
And was there foul play?

381
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,000
I went over to Tim's,

382
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,000
and he played the recordings for me.

383
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,000
Are you ready?

384
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,000
Yeah.

385
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,000
The recordings were faint.

386
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,000
You had to really be listening.

387
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,000
I'm sorry.

388
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,000
I'm sorry.

389
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,000
I'm sorry.

390
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,000
I couldn't believe it.

391
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,000
I just wanted to cry.

392
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,000
My heart just stopped,

393
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,000
and I was like, this is unbelievable that this is happening.

394
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,000
Oh, Chris.

395
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,000
It was hard, you know.

396
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,000
I felt pain for Carrie.

397
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,000
It's like I could feel the pain.

398
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,000
I felt bad for her.

399
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,000
The man says, murder.

400
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:29,000
To me, that was my answer.

401
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,000
That was my answer straight.

402
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,000
And here he had it on tape.

403
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,000
It was late at night.

404
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,000
I was laying in bed.

405
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,000
Everything was quiet.

406
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,000
I felt my whole body started to move.

407
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,000
There was something around my ankle.

408
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,000
What the hell was that?

409
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:03,000
It sounded like metal or machinery grinding.

410
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:12,000
As I looked up, I seen the tall slender man.

411
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,000
It was petrified.

412
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,000
What's going on?

413
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,000
What's up?

414
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,000
What's going on, buddy?

415
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,000
Oh, do you stay here?

416
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,000
I'm going down to the basement.

417
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,000
I walked down the stairs to turn the light on.

418
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,000
The washer, it got picked up and turned.

419
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,000
You know, it's pretty shy because, you know,

420
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,000
there's nothing down there to move it.

421
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,000
Jenny was right all along.

422
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,000
There was something paranormal going on in the house.

423
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:57,000
If this man can take a washer and push it across the basement floor,

424
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:00,000
or he can physically touch my children,

425
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,000
what else can he do?

426
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,000
I asked to have the case reopened.

427
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,000
I believe that he was murdered.

428
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:38,000
When I read the results from the new autopsy report,

429
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,000
I couldn't believe it.

430
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,000
I'm sorry.

431
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,000
Come in.

432
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,000
Have a seat. Thank you.

433
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:14,000
It was always a thought that maybe I had something to do with it.

434
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,000
I got this this morning.

435
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:23,000
I had waited so long to find out the truth about how my brother died.

436
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,000
It was 45 years.

437
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:50,000
It proved that he didn't just die from rough child's play.

438
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,000
Chris?

439
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,000
It proved that I was innocent,

440
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:02,000
that I didn't have anything to do with it.

441
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,000
Let's go play.

442
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,000
If I didn't have anything to do with it,

443
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,000
well, then somebody had a way with myrrh.

444
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:19,000
Chris's injuries were not caused by a child.

445
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:22,000
They were caused by an adult.

446
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:30,000
He was being abused by the foster father.

447
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,000
He was murdered.

448
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,000
He was a child.

449
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,000
From mom's side,

450
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,000
I didn't do it.

451
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,000
Just knowing what that little boy went through.

452
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,000
It's really hard.

453
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:15,000
And knowing that he was in my home for 45 years,

454
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:18,000
being tormented by that man,

455
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,000
it's even harder.

456
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,000
You